Curse release their second album in October 2008, produced by Pink Cream
69 bassist Dennis Ward (Krokus, Silent Force, Debauchery, Angra).
Assisting Michael Eden (Vocals), Thorsten Koehne
(Guitar), Paul Logue (Bass), Pete Newdeck (Drums) and
Ferdy Doernberg (Keys) is none other than the voice of TNT,
Starbreaker, Westworld and now a solo artist - Tony Harnell who sings
backing vocals on the entire record.
Doogie White (Rainbow, Yngwie Malmsteen, Cornerstone, Empire) once again
returns to the aid the 'Curse Choir' along with Carsten Schulz (Evidence
One, Midnite Club, Roger Staffelbach's Angel Of Eden) .
Also featured is vocalist Pamela Moore best known for her performance as
Sister Mary on Queensr˙che's 1988 epic release "Operation: Mindcrime" and
2006's sequel "Operation: Mindcrime II", who duets with Michael Eden on
the incredible Power Metal Anthem "Angels & Demons".
In late August 2007 the Rock and Metal world witnessed the birth of Eden's
Curse, a multi-national Melodic Metal group with its members spanning four
countries and two continents.
January 2006 by chief songwriter and bassist and Scotsman Paul Logue and
United States born and bred vocalist Michael Eden, these two musicians
hatched a plan to form a group utilizing the wonders of modern technology
and in particular the world wide web.
nothing but passion, spirit and an uncompromising batch of hyper rock
songs they found guitar virtuoso Thorsten Koehne and drummer Pete Newdeck,
before experienced Keyboard player Ferdy Doernberg completed the lineup in
Your new album is
out and the production is again top notch. How do you achieve this?
Paul Logue (PL): Making records is an expensive business, they are not
cheap. We do spend an awful lot of money but the first album did so well
and the royalties there were invested on this new album. We take great
pride in our sound and there is another way we can do it that doesn't cost
as much but it isn't any good. We choose to do things the way we do
because we care about our product .
Michael Eden (ME): We care about the way it is heard, we care about the
way it is visualized and the way it is sold. Will it be treated with the
respect it deserves or will it be thrown away.
I am not flying halfway round the world for jollies, I've got better
things to do than sit on a plane for thirteen hours. Or to get stopped in
Dublin because they think I am a terrorist. Leather jacket in 80 degree
weather, shaved head - might look a little odd but if they didn't charge
$90 surcharge then I wouldn't have to wear all this stuff! They think he's
gonna blow up the plane.
They stopped me at
the gate after everyone else was onboard and said 'Put your hands up and
put everything in your pockets on the table', to which I replied 'What do
you want me to do first? Put my hands up or empty my pockets?'. They
thought my IPod was a triggering device. But I had a quite night in Dublin
at EC's expense. Champagne taste but hardly enough money to afford a beer
AFM Records seem
to be doing a good job in that they kept plugging your debut album for
many months after its release unlike say some labels who release a couple
of albums per month and after a month or two the album sadly disappears
without a trace.
PL: AFM have been great. Record contracts are a complicated business but
we have a great relationship with the label and their promotion team. They
work their socks off four us - the press campaign runs for three months
solid. We do interviews and we do appreciated everyone who wants to talk
about the record as I guess that's the sign everything is going well for
How did you
hook-up with Pamela Moore (Sister Mary on 'Operation Mindcrime' by
Queensryche) on the album?
ME: We hooked up with Pamela Moore the same way we did with Tony Harnell
(TNT/Starbreaker/Morning Wood/Westworld) by writing to them via their My
Space pages. Basically saying we are EC this is what we do and get back to
us if you want to work with us. Pamela lives about a half hour away from
me. I called her up and she was getting ready to start a European tour
with Queensryche. Paul winged the track over via the internet and she was
really happy, genuinely pleased to be involved. Pamela Moore is Sister
Mary man, a real honour to have her involved.
Michael Eden on Mike Portnoy:
Nice guy but its all
money, cash motivated. Mike is a whore, a nice whore - I love whores man
as they get paid!
Would you like to
do any more covers at all?
ME: We did a cover on the first album and I always wanted to do 'Walk In
The Shadows' with Geoff Tate would be awesome. It would be like whose
gonna sing the first line? Or 'Another Rainy Night' from 'Empire' or
anything of 'Mindcrime' - so many killer tracks. Paul and I both love the
Ryche. I have seen them dozens of times. I have been seeing bands since I
was nine so that's back in 1977, I am forty this December. I had an older
brother who used to take to me to see all the great bands. I had tickets
to see Zeppelin in 1980 but of course Bonham died and I never got to see
them. Everybody was crushed.
I was thinking recently how many bands I have seen compared to Paul seeing
as I am some six, seven years older plus living here in the US I got to
see bands who don't normally tour Scotland. He would have been ten years
old and had no-one to go with.
I have seen Black
Sabbath and Van Halen in 1978. I remember Van Halen did an in store, they
never did in stores much. I was ten years old and meeting this guy Eddie
Van Halen and I had no idea who he was. He had the leather pants, the
whole rock 'n' roll stereotype. I am thinking who are these guys? I can't
believe my parents let me go with my brother as he was a wack job
(laughs). He smoked more weed than anything but that steered me away and I
have never done drugs.
I am a rock 'n' roll
reject like Ted Nugent. I get high on the music. I have never talked about
drug use before (laughs). I got to do some cool shit. I wish we had done
this twenty years ago man when Eden's Curse would have had one helluva
chance within the scene. We woulda crushed with bands like Warrant out
there we could have toured with Queensryche. When guys like you like it
it's a big plus.
You could have
been the next Dream Theater or Queensryche?
I saw them (Dream Theater) just before the 'Pull Me Under' video. I never
saw them with their original singer Charlie but I saw them when they were
doing 'Images And Words'. I have seen them several times after and met
Mike Portnoy. Nice guy but its all money , cash motivated. Mike is a
whore, a nice whore - I love whore's man as they get paid!
Mike Portnoy will
play with different musicians and they are all very talented. What a great
man and a killer band. They are a band for musicians. I am not sure how
well their music would go on regular classic rock radio. But Eden's Curse
on a different level, we could sit on many radio stations with songs like
'Sail On', as AOR as we get to something heavier like 'Just Like Judas' or
'Masquerade Ball'. We can lightin' it up to, Dream Theater doesn't lighten
its just prog.
Someone asked us about a week ago the direction of the next album and I am
trying to tell Paul let's not go heavier. Let's go back to the first
album. This guy called me yesterday and has been following me from my
previous band. He said I love your new album but the first album had a lot
of hooks and the new album in that you guys were not trying to write radio
friendly tunes. To me it sounds like the same band but some people have
said they don't like it as much or prefer it more.
When we play live we
will pull a lot of material of the debut album as we never toured it.
Hopefully people will like the albums equal. This is like a crazy
interview we are having as I am not normally like this. This is one of the
more laidback interviews we have done. It feels like sitting and talking
in your front room with someone who have known for the past twenty years.
When there are websites and radio stations that truly believe in the band
they will work hard for your music and that's the best. They will talk up
the band and that's when we get the best treatment as you are doing not
because you have to but because you want to. You guys are the ones we
remember when we do finally tour.
How will you
replicate the Curse Choir on the next album?
PL: We have had friends and fans say you have outdone yourselves and
that's just the kind of inspiration I need to take it to the next level.
This time we have
Tony Harnell and Pamela Moore. It's not higher level of quality in terms
of names it's the performance. We don't bring them in just to sell records
but of course they will help. We didn't realize how much Pamela Moore
would bring in via 'Angels & Demons' on My Space, it is heading towards
ME: 2,500 hits in one day yesterday.
PL: We are not
looking at Ronnie Dio say but we have guys in our camp like Doogie White,
Carsten Schulz and David Readman will be in album number three, having
missed this one, in fact I can almost guarantee his participation at this
stage. We could bring in Tony Harnell or people we talked with last time
like DC Cooper.
Having watched Edguy and Avantasia bring in other vocalists I thought,
hmmm that works why not try it?
ME: Pamela Moore is
about to work with a German band, can't remember their name.
Michael Eden on Paul Logue:
He is a workaholic.
His wife will put a plastic bag on his head and tell him cut down on
What sort of live
dates are you looking at - a tour or festivals?
PL: A tour is a preference, it has to be the right package and we were
sounded out about six months ago by AFM about going out with Ross The Boss
and Sinner. Ross The Boss will bring in Manowar fans and it might work
adversely for us. But bands like Pretty Maids, Bonfire, Pink Cream 69
anything like that.
We are talking to
various booking agents throughout Europe for 2009 tour dates. We would
love to do festivals and to be honest we don't have to do Firefest as the
debut album did so well. Without sounding like an arrogant twat we don't
need them to sell the main amount of records again. We are going to play
where we are wanted.
As a fan I get
frustrated at times with the politics in festivals as you just want to see
you favourite band playing!
ME: We have an election here soon and I used to think the President of the
US was the most powerful person in the world. But not anymore as we have
homeless, the job rate is for shit. One thing for sure to get me going is
to say how great the US is. The only thing it does have is a land of
opportunity for people who don't have much in their life.
People from say
Mexico can come and earn a decent wage doing work. The job market is bad,
a lot of negatives. Same in the music business rather than focus on the
negatives, I mean AC/DC have had 600,000 illegal downloads which is music
they won't earn money off. They can afford it but newer bands can't. Go
back to the eighties you sold CD's and had now downloads.
PL: We do pick up 80's influences from Queensryche and Dokken. The 80's
had the best players, there is no singer out there now like Michael.
ME: Ah how sweet.
Paul Logue on Eden's Curse:
I think we remind
people of what they loved about all those 80's greats like Queensryche.
PL: The scene is dominated by middle of the tone singers but Michael is
different. We have a great guitar player. I think we remind people of what
they loved about all those 80's greats like Queensryche. I write songs
purely from the heart and only songs I would like to hear. I don't have to
force my style at all.
ME: We are not a project we are a band. How we would live together on tour
is another thing. I know Paul well but (Pete) Newdeck is a certifiable
madman. I have to think about it!
We wouldn't go out
for more than fourteen days. We can't leave our regular lives as Eden's
Curse doesn't pay our bills. For a longer tour it would have to be
financially viable. We will record a live DVD and live record. We have
supportive labels that will be open to ideas we bring them.
We brought them a twenty page booklet which costs a lot of money but they
did it. Nobody tells us we can't go over twelve pages. I was an arts major
and this twenty page book is a big part of us. Next time hopefully a
Digipak. We want that kickass package that Udo, the Accept singer got for
his 'Thunderball' album. Bigger is better.
Do we think we can outdo the new album? We will both tell you absolutely.
Any artist who says they have done their best work than go home, you
shouldn't be in the game. Could you imagine Kiss giving up after their
first album if people asked then how could they top that? I aspire, this
may sound a little ballsy, to be 1% of what Kiss is and was. We will have
been doping pretty damn well.
There have been all sorts of rumours about Eden's Curse, like I am leaving
and there is a new singer and new record in the making. I have been trying
to find out who the hell started this one off. People will start any shit
especially when they see a band having success.
PL: You just have to get on with it and do your best.
ME: I am not sure how much longer I can keep singing at this vocal level,
hopefully for many years to come like Dio. I never told anyone this but I
can't do the low stuff like Geoff Tate. I don't smoke cigarettes so don't
have the low, raspy end, like Jeff Keith in Tesla. In my opinion I sound
better now than ten or fifteen years ago. Robert Plant does not have the
same screaming voice he had back in the early days. I love Plant's vocals
but it is not the same power now.
I got into trouble on the album's recording by doing some ends top each
line like James Hetfield. I do this rough ending and Dennis Ward
(producer) says 'Don't do it every line'. I don't always agree but Dennis
is the producer and he is helping the band's sound overall.
ME: I love this new album in terms of commercialism its slightly different
than the debut. It's still Eden's Curse and we will have a little bit of
everything for everyone. We have started work on the next album.
PL: I was working on the new album last night actually.
ME: He is a workaholic. His wife will put a plastic bag on his head and
tell him cut down on the song writing.
(At this point Paul
Logue brings on his wife Pamela who says 'You just continue with the song
ME: See what I mean? Paul gets people to do and say things they wouldn't
Some reviews have
been mixed. One guy said we did a Survivor cover 'Man Against The World'
on this album.
PL: It's a song about my brother! I never knew Jim Peterik knew my
brother. When I read that review I though, hmm they must only get internet
access on a Wednesday in the asylum. How do you type with a straight
There are more
keyboards on this album?
PL: Ferdy joined very late for the debut at which point most of the keys
were recorded. So on this album we let him have a freer reign and there
are keyboard solos and some lovely Hammond riffs. In fact Ferdy joked that
most of his keyboards he plays are older than he is.
Finally, a message for you fans
Thanks to sites like Get Ready To Rock! And other music websites that
don't always get the recognition they deserve, so thank you from Eden's
Curse. Thanks to all the fans for their support and the wonderful
emails/letters we get from them. We are looking forward to finally getting
out there and playing live in 2009.
Curse's album 'The Second Coming' is released on AFM Records on October
single from the album - 'Angels And Demons' - is available for free
download in full at the band's myspace page
Interview © 2008 Jason Ritchie. All rights reserved.
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